Minutes of the meeting held on Monday 16 September 2002 at 7.30pm in Maryculter Community Hall.

Agenda
Present
Apologies
Absent
Minutes
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Present

Maryculter

Netherley

Banchory Devenick

Aberdeenshire Councillors

Avril Tulloch
Raymond Cowan
(Treasurer)
Kevin Park
Bill Fraser
Philip Smart
(Chairman)
Rob Winmill
(Vice chairman)
Robert Keeler
(Secretary)
Mike Birch
Sandy Wallace
(Lower Deeside)

3 members of the public


Apologies

Kate Kleppang
Alan Bisset (Fetteresso)

Absent

Fiona Culbert

Minutes

1.

MINUTES of the meeting of 19th August 2002 was approved after the following amendments: Rural Schools Closure, Hamish Vernal not Vernon. Line - "Mike queried the role of Banchory-Devenick school", should read : "Mike queried the projected roll of …." : Golf driving range - Lines 5 to 7 should read : . He also suggested not using a Q.C. as the advice would not be specific enough. Bill wouldn't like to see the Cults side overtake us and Mr Gauld's case go through. It was agreed to approach John Agnew to collate the information… : Special Area of Conservation (SAC) Rob noted that the Red Moss area of Netherley is being proposed as an SAC , it was agreed to find out just what effect this might have on nearby development.
: AOCB : Questionnaire received from Council on plants and flowers to be used to decorate villages etc in 2003. It was agreed to pass to Corbie Hall Committee for their use.

2.

Matters Arising

Rural Schools Closure

 

Philip and Mike had attended a meeting at Mackie Academy, there were a number of Banchory-Devenick parents who were against the merger. Sandy had spoken to Hamish Vernal and felt that a two school merger could go ahead and that Alan Findlay also would support this. The questionnaire sent out in the area was poorly worded and distributed. The consensus was that the right questions had not been asked. Philip reiterated that using the comments box was most important. Steve Davies - Netherley School Chairman had arranged a leaflet drop in the area to better explain their position. Sandy's view was that Netherley and Maryculter schools should merge although he will listen to what the community wants. It was felt that Maryculter School parents should be advised. Wherever the new school was sited it was likely that 20 new houses would be allowed in that area. Sandy's view was that the Lairhillock site was not cut and dried and in many ways would not be suitable. George queried the numbers of houses, Sandy explained that 10 houses at each of Netherley and Maryculter West schools were in the new Plan. Mike asked for confirmation that the Council would be responsible for upgrading roads. Sandy thought that a more suitable site might be on the South Deeside road between the caravan park and Templars, especially if the proposed improved facilities go ahead. Rob said that the proposed 281 houses at Blairs could still go ahead, might be decided by December.
Philip was mandated to present a view to the council, Bill suggested that this would help clarify people's thinking. Rob said we should send a letter rather than arrange a questionnaire as time was short, the analysis of questionnaires will be completed and sent to the Council by 7 October. Bill felt that asking for more information on a two school merger would be more beneficial, Mike agreed. Sandy suggested he write to Maryculter parents as their local councillor. It was agreed to form a sub-committee of Sandy Wallace , and Philip Smart to pursue the matter, and contact representatives from Maryculter PTA, Netherley and Banchory-Devenick schools. Rob asked if we should involve the media, it was agreed that we should not at the moment.

Website

  It was agreed that an electronic form for suggestions, incidents etc re the B979 be created on the 'Topics' page.

Roads

  The promised study on the B979 will be completed later this year. Roads and Road maintenance are on the Agenda of the next Community Council Forum on 26 September.
Kate and Robert will attend.

3.

Police Report

Two Officers attended and gave their report. Several road accidents had occurred and it was stressed that road conditions were slippery with rain after a long dry spell, please drive according to conditions. Philip asked if the recent accidents on the B979 would appear as statistics. If they were reported they would be. There had been reports of suspicious vehicles in the area, and a request to report anything suspicious. With the days getting shorter, precautions on house security should be taken, time switches etc. George Masson asked, if his alarm went off , how long before an officer attended. Mike asked if their were special reserves, no but in a real emergency an officer would be called from Aberdeen or Montrose. Sandy said there were usually enough police, and felt that the police were doing a good job, but the legal system was letting everyone down. Often the people who do get caught either do not get to court or if they do are not punished. There was also a lot of time wasting for witnesses and police when cases were dropped for various reasons.

4.

Planning

Area Local Plan (ALP)

  The Area Local Plan has been published and objections are must be in by 8th October. Rob and Philip will examine it, draft our objections, probably concentrating on steading conversions, settlement envelopes and wind farms, and circulate them to Community Councillors before submission. Copies are available at libraries and on the Web. ALP will be much stronger than CALP it replaces, and now starts to carry more weight in planning decisions, as CALP conversely starts to carry less.
Sandy will be objecting to the proposed ban on developing old steadings
The appeal against planning refusal for four Stobhall properties Plots 4-7 has been refused.
It was noted that the policy on Windfarms could lead to councils having difficulty refusing any developer no matter how unsuitable.

Community Woodland

  Nothing to report.

Proposed Organic Farm

  Proposed organic farm on the Netherley road - The second application (retrospective) for siting of caravans is likely to go to committee in October.

Cookney Hill

  Will probably be delegated, as long as drainage plans are approved.

Golf driving range

  Should go to committee in November.

Blairs

  This 3 year old application (hotel, chalets, golf course , 281 houses etc) may finally go to committee before Christmas as the developer is pressing for it to be considered.(Sandy is also anxious to bring it forward due to its effect on primary school decision)

Forestry Design Plan

  Rob reported he had been unable to meet Phillipa from the Forestry Commission as she was off work, but was due to meet Jim Sneaton on 17th September.

Dog Agility

  Permission for Dog Agility course at Stranog - Decision deferred for site visit by area Committee.

Planning applications received since last meeting

S020880HA Full Planning Permission for Extension to Dwellinghouse (conservatory) at The Beeches, Banchory-Devenick
S020888HA Full Planning Permission for Erection of Domestic Garage at 2 Crossley, Netherley
S020889HA Full Planning Permission for Extension to Dwellinghouse (conservatory) at Craigiecatt, Netherley
S020890HA Full Planning Permission for Extension to Dwellinghouse and Erection of Domestic Garage at Hillside Cottage, Ardoe, Banchory-Devenick
S020893HA Full Planning Permission for Erection of Garden Shed/Greenhouse at Birken Braes, Ardoe, Banchory-Devenick
S020894PF Full Planning Permission for Erection of Dwellinghouse and Formation of Vehicular Access at Cookney Grange (land adjacent), Cookney
S020896HA Full Planning Permission for Formation of Vehicular Access (re-instatement of former access) at Millbank Cottage, Maryculter
S020914PF Full Planning Permission for Erection of Horse Shelter/Tack Room/Store and Formation of Associated Parking Area at Brookfield, Maryculter
S020922PF Full Planning Permission for Alterations/Extension and Change of Use of Farm Steading to Form Dwellinghouse at Woodside of Ardoe, Banchory-Devenick
S020969HA Full Planning Permission for Erection of Conservatory at Drumthwacket Steading, Banchory-Devenick

5.

Finance

  We have received annual grant of £600 from Aberdeenshire Council.
  We have received a request for funding from Nicola Grant, for studying at a French Business School, it was felt that this was not a request that we could grant.
 

July 200 Club Draw winners

£5 no.111 J Keir
£10 no.15 H Nicol
 

September 200 Club Draw winners

£5 no.197 G Masson
£10 no.49 A Bayliss
£15 no.180 P Cowan

6.

Correspondence

     
   
Aug 22 O2 Airwave service - Additional Radio Transmitters.
Aug 23 Kincardine & Area Bus Forum Meeting at Invercarron Centre
Aug 23 South Aberdeenshire Crime Bulletin w/e 23 August 2002
Aug 26 Area Bus Timetables
Aug 27 Scotways Membership receipt
Aug 30 South Aberdeenshire Crime Bulletin w/e 30 August 2002
Sep 2 Portlethen & District Community Council - Aberdeen Football Stadium.
Sep 3 Green Diary September
Sep 5 Kincardine and Mearns Area Committee meeting 10 September 2002
Sep 6 South Aberdeenshire Crime Bulletin w/e 6 September 2002
Sep 10 Aberdeenshire Council Copy of Aberdeenshire Local Plan
Sep 11 Kincardine & Mearns Area - Delegated Planning Applications 24 July to 23 August 2002
Sep 12 Aberdeenshire Council - Copy of Reporters dismissal of Appeal re Plot 4 - 7 Stobhall Maryculter
Sep 14 Aberdeenshire Council - Closure of Pitdrichie Landfill site
Sep 14 SNH - Northern Lights Magazine
Sep 14 Kincardine and Mearns Community Council Forum Agenda 26 September meeting
Sep 16 Aberdeenshire Council - Transport in Aberdeenshire for people with mobility problems.
Sep 16 Turnock - Christmas lighting catalogue.
7. AOCB

Plants

  Kevin has a list of plants available from the Council for next year.

Next Two Meetings

October 21 2002 7:30
November 18 2002 7:30